The Young Podawans Ep. 45 – Wonder Woman

Way too many years in the making, the Wonder Woman movie is finally here, and it’s smashing box office records and both fan and critical exceptions. You don’t need a Lasso of Truth for us to confess we loved this movie – even though there are some problematic elements we discuss as well.

Plus more pronunciation arguments, but somehow we don’t debate whether it’s Gal or Jal Gadot… or Jadot.

Segment 1: What Are We Geeking Out About? (00:57)

Every week in the opening segment we discuss what we’re currently geeking out about! This week Kristin is geeking out about Oxygen Not Included (with bonus Brian revealing his age via arcane video game references) and Brian is geeking out about Unleash the Archers – Apex (with bonus ranking of the Nightwish lead singers).

Segment 2: What Are We Drinking About This Week? (12:50)

Another regular segment where we discuss – you guessed it – what we’re drinking. Kristin’s drinking Stillwater Artisanal Ales Gose Gone Wild and Brian’s drinking Aslan Brewing Dawn Patrol Pacific Ale.

Segment 3: Wonder Woman Discussion (20:14)

  • We tried to manage expectations given our experience with the other DCEU movies and Rogue One.
  • Quick note about loving this movie but not great for women of color and a bit ablist.
  • Opening with Themyscira had a hopefulness and lightness not found in the other DCEU movies.
  • Inherent cheesiness built into the mythological origins of the DC heroes.
  • Nice nod to the classic origin of Wonder Woman vs going right to the Daughter of Zeus.
  • People. Wonder Woman was not fighting Nazis in this.
  • Gal Gadot was really really good in this. Earnest without being dumb and also super badass.
  • Wonder Woman sees the good in people and will fight for it.
  • Chris Pine was fine and Brian thought he and Gal had better chemistry than Kristin did.
  • Neither of us bought the romance very much though.
  • Most of comedy worked, but could have been terrible if not sold properly by the actors.
  • Very good use of color in Wonder Woman’s costume to make her stand out against the bleakness of the war.
  • The “No Man’s Land” sequence was incredibly powerful.
  • The final fight was kind of a mess and maybe Ares was miscast?
  • A debate about Dr. Poison and her as a villain and a character and a stereotype.
  • The ending probably would have been better with no Ares at all.
  • More Dr. Poison talk!
  • And more Diana & Steve relationship talk!
  • The supporting cast was really excellent too!
  • Kickass soundtrack and Wonder Woman’s them in particular.
  • Difference in tone due to the writing of Geoff Johns & Allen Heinberg.
  • Doing the traditional take of a hero first vs the deconstruction first.
  • Comics to read now – Azzarello, Simone, Rucka, Perez
  • Where does Wonder Woman rank in the pantheon of comic book movies (or movies in general?)

Segment 4: Outro, Contact Info & Outtakes! (71:15)

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